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 Post subject: New forum for german speaking only ;-)
PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:14 pm 
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Due to the results of the last :arrow: On-line Survey I suggest a forum for german speaking people.

On-line Survey 2003 Results wrote:
17. Where do you live?
Germany 47 17%
Netherlands 27 10%
United States 25 9%
Denmark 13 5%
United Kingdom 13 5%
Belgium 12 4%
India 12 4%
Sweden 12 4%
Spain 11 4%
France 10 4%
Italy 10 4%
Portugal 9 3%
South Africa 8 3%
Australia 6 2%
Canada 6 2%
Iceland 5 2%
Other 51 18%


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:30 pm 
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Timo,

Besides the fact that most of the people (outside Germany and France) speak (or read at the least) English this is a very "uneuropean" suggestion because...

Germany had only 17%

If you would take a closer look you can see the following:

1.) Other is 18%. I think the people in the other category speak better English then they do German.

2.) United States (9%), United Kingdom (5%), Australia (2%) and Canada (2%) have 18% together as well. Another reason to keep it English as you pointed out yourself by posting your message.

3.) 83% of the visitors do not come from Germany! Ouch… Germany is not the biggest here.

4.) Don't you think you should, at least, try to keep everything in one language so you "bundle" as much knowledge as we all can?

5.) You (and the French) should really, really, really, really try to communicate with the rest of the world. There is in fact a world beyond your German borders.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:03 am 
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Thank you for your quick reply :wink:

I know that english is the most spoken / readed language.
I suggest this because of the forum Image Navision Dutch speaking only. (The Netherlands only has 10%.)
But this was only a suggestion and I'm not offended if this suggestion will not be realised.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:57 am 
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Timo,

I'm not the webmaster!

I'm just another visitor with an oppinion....

And you are right about the dutch forum, that's why I made the "delete or not to delete" post in that forum. I think it should be deleted as well...


Btw, It wasn't being used anyway...

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:09 am 
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eromein wrote:
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I'm not the webmaster!

I'm just another visitor with an oppinion....
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Oops... I think I have mixed up some names :oops: :roll:
I think this is based on your many posts and you also come from Netherlands.

I should know that Luc van Dyck is the webmaster.

Hey Luc! What do you think about this? :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:50 am 
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Luc is from belgium :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:54 am 
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I capitulate :lol: :roll:


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Here is your webmaster speaking ;-)

It is no problem to create extra, non-english forums, but the point is whether they are going te be used. Those non-english forums are created to discuss country-specific issues, but the actual discussions are mostly not country related. So you end up with a) a non-english chit chat forum or b) a forum where interesting things are said, but what is not readable for the whole community.

End-users will probably gain with a forum in their native language to ask support questions. But as most of the visitors are developers, I think English is the language to discuss programming topics. Starting from Navision 3.10, all table- and fieldnames are in English, with a non-english caption.

And it is indeed a shame that so many requests on partnerguide are written in German, Spanish or Russian. We where told in Belgium to always use English for support requests ... so why not everywhere?

Just my 2 cents.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:11 pm 
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Luc Van Dyck wrote:
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So you end up with a) a non-english chit chat forum or b) a forum where interesting things are said, but what is not readable for the whole community.
You're right! In this case, I agree with Emiel Romein:
eromein wrote:
that's why I made the "delete or not to delete" post in that forum
:arrow: delete or not delete

Luc Van Dyck wrote:
End-users will probably gain with a forum in their native language to ask support questions. But as most of the visitors are developers, I think English is the language to discuss programming topics. Starting from Navision 3.10, all table- and fieldnames are in English, with a non-english caption.
Here I also agree with you. I think my english is better than your german, ... although I know that I definitely make some terrible mistakes. :wink:

Luc Van Dyck wrote:
And it is indeed a shame that so many requests on partnerguide are written in German, Spanish or Russian. We where told in Belgium to always use English for support requests ... so why not everywhere?
You forgot Frensh :wink:
Sometimes, you find a excellent match in partnerguide for exactly your problem (in the Subject) but the whole text is in Spanish, French, Russian,... :evil:

Now, I feel confident that this community doesn't need any non-english forums.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:02 am 
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Sometimes, you find a excellent match in partnerguide for exactly your problem (in the Subject) but the whole text is in Spanish, French, Russian,...


I'm sure everyone that ever search the partnerguide has a little smile on his or her face after reading your statement. :wink:

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