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 Post subject: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:41 pm 
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Hello

I read the licensing document on partnersource and have some doubts.


If I am making a website that will consume webservices on NAV, what licensing should my customer purchase.

If the end users are just employees,
What license/ granuale do I need and what is total cost fo 10 users for example?

Thank you.


if the users are not employees, but customers who come to place orders?


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 Post subject: Re: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:36 pm 
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Based on bits we have had through from Microsoft.

Your Employees would need to have, at the very least, a DCO licence each.

For non employees I think the external connector that will cover them.

In general, the rules are relatively simple, if you use, access, read or update data relating to Microsoft Dynamics NAV then some form of valid Dynamics licencing is required. This may take the form of Concurrent, Mobile, External Connector or DCO licence.

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 Post subject: Re: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:58 pm 
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True. If you have internal users, you will have to buy 1 DCO for every named user, no limit (!). No maximum that is. Even if you have an application looking up the postal codes with 1.000 users, you will have to buy 1.000 named DCO's. External users are the same: you will need a named DCO for each user. Only difference is that you can buy them off with the external connector.

I don't think it's wise to post prices here, just contact your NAV partner...


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 Post subject: Re: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
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Thanks for the info. I'm curious if it’s voluntary partner suggestion licensing or enforced in some other way?


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 Post subject: Re: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
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generic wrote:
Thanks for the info. I'm curious if it’s voluntary partner suggestion licensing or enforced in some other way?



Licensing is never a "voluntary suggestion". Whether or not the restrcitions are technically enforced you are agreeing to abided by them when you install the software.

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 Post subject: Re: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
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I was looking at the new licensing with DCO. They basically state that any access to the data needs to be licensed.

So If I write a SQL report that gets the data and displays the data for the whole company, then I need license for the whole company.

So a company that has 1000 users but only accounting is using NAV, and if they publish a sql report, then the company needs to purchase licenses for 1000 users.

So any company that use currently nav 5.0 with this scenario will pay through the nose if they upgrade.


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 Post subject: Re: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:28 am 
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Hi everybody!
This NAV2009 is mixing my head. I don't understand that webservice.
Is that form 810 is NAV2009's object? or not? Everywhere says that open form810. But my NAV2009 doesn't have it.
Maybe my question is stupid, but i hope someone will answer me.

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 Post subject: Re: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:26 pm 
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Yes there is a form 810 Web Services. You should have in your 2009 database. You can also run the table manually. It's table 2000000076 Web Service.

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 Post subject: Re: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
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But in my navision there isn't.
So can i take it by text format?

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 Post subject: Re: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
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ok... so what version of nav are you using?

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 Post subject: Re: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
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Now i'm using nav2009.
Trying to implement nav2009.

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 Post subject: Re: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
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do you have any pages objects? Do you see a page by that number?

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 Post subject: Re: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
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No, i don't have page's object.
Yesterday i had NAV2009 License.
I don't have form 810. I have only one object that related with Web service. (table 2000000076)

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 Post subject: Re: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:08 pm 
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Hi Ian_Piddington,

Your Statement,
Ian_Piddington wrote:
In general, the rules are relatively simple, if you use, access, read or update data relating to Microsoft Dynamics NAV then some form of valid Dynamics licencing is required. This may take the form of Concurrent, Mobile, External Connector or DCO licence.

is not true in one case. [-X [-X [-X

We can access NAV data in web application through SQL Server database without having any of the licances use.

I have developed one Web Application using the same which do not required any type of user licence and can be accessd by unlimited users through web.
But ya, for that we will need to do lot much customization at asp.net side.

Do not mind at all. I just informed.
\:D/ \:D/

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 Post subject: Re: Nav 2009 Webservice Licensing
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:12 pm 
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Ravi_Thakkar wrote:
Hi Ian_Piddington,

Your Statement,
Ian_Piddington wrote:
In general, the rules are relatively simple, if you use, access, read or update data relating to Microsoft Dynamics NAV then some form of valid Dynamics licencing is required. This may take the form of Concurrent, Mobile, External Connector or DCO licence.

is not true in one case. [-X [-X [-X

We can access NAV data in web application through SQL Server database without having any of the licances use.

I have developed one Web Application using the same which do not required any type of user licence and can be accessd by unlimited users through web.
But ya, for that we will need to do lot much customization at asp.net side.

Do not mind at all. I just informed.
\:D/ \:D/


To start with, in your scenario, the NAV SQL server needs to be licensed for unlimited users (processor licensing). I'm not sure, but I also think you need to have the "External Connector".

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